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*: You are on channel 1 with pinery, webmaster, marty. *: pinery just melted into a meaningless puddle of ooze and is now gone. marty: hi bo so web you got another big un tied up?? webmaster: That's what I thought. That you were going on the early hunt with your daughter. webmaster: All the people are starting to file in now Marty. BoHunter: howdy all! webmaster: I hope that buck I got tied up, stays where I put him :) marty: no she's only 12 was suppose to have a kid come over but he slept in instead of taken his hunter safety course webmaster: Howdy Bo, you ready? BoHunter: Always, just put it away for the night after some practice marty: my daughter took her and scored better than the boys then a boy told her girls cant hunt she just laugh at him BoHunter: Anyone else getting ready for the opener? webmaster: I gotta get down the basement yet tonight and take a few shots. marty: thats what we do when the weather is crappy got a bunch of rain last night but so windy today webmaster: I finally got a broadhead, arrow match that I can live with. BoHunter: I plan on headin' north for the weekend to do some scouting. marty: suppose to get my camtrakker back had a prob with the circuit board in it webmaster: Why don't they have the archery competition from the Olympics on during prime time? marty: what kind of head did you settle on web?? BoHunter: Important. I broke down this year and bought a block for practice. Best investment I made this year. marty: I bought one of those blocks pretty good little target webmaster: The nuge blade, had to go to 2413's with 5 inch fletchings with a little more helical to get them to go where my field points do. marty: where you headed for bo?? marty: I had two different heads I went back to my thunderheads they never have let me down BoHunter: I finally got the bow tuned for field tips and broadheads BoHunter: Grayling, just bought a little place outside of Grayling. webmaster: I know somebody else who swears by thunderheads. BoHunter: I have used thunderheads for some time now and they have not let me down. BoHunter: Got a couple of nice does with them and last year took my first buck with my bow. They did the trick marty: I had some jak hammers and they do blow a big hole in a deer but I once shot a deer where the thunderhead went right through the back bone and they stuck in the ground pulled it out sharpen it up and marty: went again webmaster: Can shoot the Nugent blade through a 55 gallon drum. marty: well they are starting to bait again in 452 today seen a big trailer pulled into the gas stattion with beets and carrots BoHunter: Jak hammers? Are those expandable? I haven't heard of them. marty: yea made by wasp I think 36" thousand thickness more than a thunderhead webmaster: What do you mean starting Marty? I didn't think they ever stopped. BoHunter: Bait in 452?? I did not think that they were allowing it this year. marty: not suppose to but they sure do sell a lot guess those guys are making their own sugar and a big stew marty: most of them did but they will start now theres no way the dnr is ever going to stop it webmaster: Not to mention the rest of the state if they outlaw it throughout the state. *: a_ball4u just logged on to Jabber Chat. *: a_ball4u just entered this channel. marty: maybe on state land but not on private marty: howdy ball webmaster: Hello Aball a_ball4u: hi BoHunter: What is the penalty? Have any idea? BoHunter: Howdy ball marty: I think the fellow I talk too got a hundred dollar fine webmaster: Slap on the wrist. marty: yepper one of those rich hunt club dudes told them to make him a tab and he pay after the season BoHunter: How does feeding blue jays differ from deer feeding/baiting BoHunter: Those blue jays (and grouse) love corn. marty: as long as the deer cant get to it I have a turkey feeder that works pretty well but you always get some corn on the ground BoHunter: I decided to plant some "no-plow" this year. Has anyone used this before? marty: not here but with all the rain we've been getting should do ok BoHunter: Cost enough. I hope it does well. marty: anyone ever tried mossy oaks bio-logic?? *: hambone just logged off. BoHunter: No. Friends have used the Imperial Whitetail and have been very happy. So I stuck with that. a_ball4u: What is so special about that stuff compared to ladino, whit dutch, etc. clovers? marty: I planted a bunch of different stuff this year just to see what the like the best BoHunter: According to the experts (???) the deer prefer a special blend of clover. I suspect the experts work for the Whitetail Institute. marty: well a wildlife bioligist told me that that stuff is a rip off a_ball4u: lol.... Just wondering. I assumed it'd be cheaper to buy it and mix it yourself. BoHunter: What did the biologist suggest? marty: I planted rape at 70 cents a pound and they deer tore it up a_ball4u: I looked aty the ingreedients before, and that's basuicly what it is BoHunter: What is rape?? a_ball4u: *basicly marty: he told me fiels corn rye and winter wheat is good mix birdsfoot trefoil and ladino alsike and red clover is a good blend marty: rape is from the brassica family its annual but is pretty drought resistaint BoHunter: Thanks. I will think about itfor the spring planting. Is the stuff available from the local elevator? a_ball4u: Has anyone had success woth field rye? marty: yea any place that sells seed should have it or be able to get it marty: I have a small patch of it ball the seem to be hitting now a_ball4u: I've had people coming in to where I work and say they use it, but a majority use it for jst garden cover (field rye) BoHunter: Sounds a lot cheaper than this other stuff. *: moe_rm just logged on to Jabber Chat. *: moe_rm just entered this channel. a_ball4u: I think i may give it a try next year. moe_rm: hi everyone! BoHunter: Howdy *: hambone just logged on to Jabber Chat. marty: I got a bunch of stuuf plante this year just want to see what they like the best Hi moe a_ball4u: It's not my property, so I think it would work well because it doesn't come back year after year moe_rm: hiya Bo a_ball4u: hi moe_rm marty: hambone hambone have you heard?? moe_rm: hi marty moe_rm: hi a_ball a_ball4u: I gtg (michigan out of doors is on) moe_rm: hi hambone BoHunter: I have only a small plot to plant. Less than an acre. I imagine this stuff would be just as effective? marty: Got me a free tractor yet?? a_ball4u: I'll se ya in ahalf hour! moe_rm: later a_ball *: a_ball4u just logged off. marty: yea bo just rough up the soil a bit and cover it up mother nature will do the rest moe_rm: who all is ready for Oct 1?! marty: me me me hambone: how are you guys doing BoHunter: sounds good. I will plant in the spring. What's the worst that can happen? BoHunter: Second. moe_rm: i put my broadhead on tonight :) marty: for the price not that much marty: you only got one moe lol moe_rm: oops forgot the s on the end moe_rm: broadheadssssssssss marty: If you only had one I would have gave you one more lol hambone: you guys ready for the season to start BoHunter: Sorry guys I am new to this. I can't decipher lol. Any help. "lots of luck"?? marty: lots of laughs BoHunter: Thanks moe_rm: i'm gonna give Muzzy a try this year marty: lock and cocked and ready to rock ham and u?? *: hambone just logged off. *: hambone just logged off. marty: I never tried them but sold a lot of them when I had my shop moe_rm: ham, i get to hunt deer this weekend :) moe_rm: oops he logged off! moe_rm: what kind do you shoot? marty: you going to use a rifle or bow moe?? moe_rm: shotgun marty: I went back to my thunderheads moe_rm: got my gun all sighted in and ready to go! marty: kewl seen any big uns down your way?? moe_rm: cool, Muzzy is flying a little better for me than thunderheads moe_rm: o yeah! moe_rm: been seeing a BIG 12 and have saw 3 10s and about 5 8s and a bunch of smaller ones marty: I found a couple nice rubs the other day on my place hopefully I'll get a chance to see the big boy who made it marty: thats right rub it in moe_rm: i'm just goin after my first deer still though marty: great hope you get the big one BoHunter: I haven't seen any rubs yet. But lots of other sign. moe_rm: i haven't saw any rubs yet either BoHunter: I don't think that I can count that high when it comes to bowhunting those deer. marty: as cold as it was today I think winter is going to make an early arrival this year *: You are on channel 1 with marty, BoHunter, moe_rm. moe_rm: i sure hope it does marty moe_rm: i like bowhunting in cold weather! BoHunter: i sure hope so. I don't want opening day to be 75 again. Where is your place marty? marty: we really need snow for the lakes and rivers hope its not to bad on the deer herd though webmaster: Ok I'm back, my bow is still shooting bullet points through paper. webmaster: Life is good. marty: I'm in greenbush just pass oscoda on the shore on lake huron BoHunter: Always with bow in hand and hitting bullet points. marty: makes you feel good when that happens doesn't it web moe_rm: hey Web how much do those new stabalizers really help? BoHunter: Nice area. I looked there when I was buying property. webmaster: Did you guys hear that Anderson archery might be closing? marty: yea the property up here has really gone through the roof BoHunter: really? Too much competition from these other outdoor stores? marty: why are they closing always though they did real well webmaster: Moe, I don't know how much the stabilizer eliminates bow torque but I can tell you it eliminates vibration and sound. moe_rm: if my dad will take me tomorrow i'm gonna try shooting one on my bow moe_rm: i don't have trouble with torque webmaster: Don't know, I just heard they were really selling stuff at close out prices. BoHunter: the prices are incredible in this state. I wanted to be about 3 hours from home. plan on spening about $1500-$2k an acre. Ouch. marty: I seen a paper the other day 10 acres 45.000 BoHunter: what kinda stabilizer, web? webmaster: At least Bo, I' webmaster: I've seen them go from $1000 per acre to more than $2500 by Manistee. BoHunter: thia is the big one elizabeth...$4500 per acre?.cry BoHunter: Guy that wqorks for me is part owner of 960 near Alpena. Those days are over. marty: yea thats crazy They must have gold in them there hills BoHunter: However he says there is a 760 for sale. Can't imagine the cost. webmaster: Well hello Boehr how are you? marty: I seen a realator today told me I can triple my money right now if I break up mine into ten or five acre parcles moe_rm: hi Boehr! BoHunter: Howdy boerh webmaster: Way over a million $ boehr: Good, cool nights no so hot during the day, it's time marty: yep easy monthly payments for your whole life howdy boehr webmaster: It's definitely in the air. BoHunter: Soon there will be no 40's left the way people are buying anfd breaking BoHunter: birdman how ya doin'? marty: yea this place I'm looking at butts up to mine but I got to decide on a tractor or this property boehr: Hey birdman webmaster: Yes mostly 20 webmaster: 20s and 10s already. BoHunter: Both? It's only money. boehr: And it's even football season to boot! *: birdman just logged off. webmaster: Marty the tractor will lose value, the land is like gold. BoHunter: I am looking for an 80 now that I have a small place and it is hard to find. marty: hey did you all hear another positive cattle herd in alcona county webmaster: Guess birdman didn't see anybody he wanted to talk to... webmaster: I'd be happy to get 10 acres somewhere. marty: yea I know web just so hard to get anyone over here to do anywork guess I'll have to hit the lottery BoHunter: I just bought 13 this year with a cozy cabin. It cures all of my woes. marty: thers a eighty down from me with an old house 275.000 and its yours webmaster: Boehr, didn't mean to argue with you on the forums, but I think its just the situation that CO's find themselves in that make people think they have more power than regular law officers. webmaster: Where did you buy it at BO? webmaster: $275,000 that's unbelievable. BoHunter: East of Grayling. marty: yea bo makes it nice when its yours doesn't it boehr: web, I didn't think we were arguing, it's is what most people, including some CO's for a long time, that's what they thought BoHunter: marty is that Lira?? can't be US greenbacks. webmaster: I tell you one that's even more unbelievabe. There is a $10 acre plot right on M55 by Wellston the the corner of another busy road and with the easements to both its really only 7 acres. They want marty: I tried to buy the back fourty and she wont break it up thats probably why she hasn't sold it yet webmaster: $35,000 for it because it backs to federal land. marty: I know where thers a ten right down from me that butts up to federal land for twenty right now boehr: 35 for 40 doesn't sound too bad marty: nope bo dats them dead presidents webmaster: It's only for $10 acres (actually less) Boehr. BoHunter: Lordy... webmaster: I get the feeling that in a few years I will be priced out of the market. marty: and the sad part is she will probably get it in time a_ball4u: hi. I'm back moe_rm: wb a_ball BoHunter: My kids will have to take a 60 year mortgage to buy property boehr: Hi a_ball4u BoHunter: Welcome back boehr: Antbody doing anthing on grouse? a_ball4u: Another cattle herd was found with TB. Somewhere NE I think. (Just heard from Michigan Out of Doors) marty: I told my kids they could do with my place whatever they want with it when I'm dead and gone marty: alcona county ball BoHunter: saw a dozen this weekend. Of course my gun was in the case. the kids thought the birds were cool. webmaster: I'm sure they could find TB in every county if they looked hard enough. a_ball4u: ??? a_ball4u: Not sure a_ball4u: it was kinda brief, and i wasn't paying much attention a_ball4u: Yeah, but this was in cattle BoHunter: The answer is simple. Stop baiting the cattle. marty: well guess they'll keep on the slaughter webmaster: Marty, aren't you seeing more and nicer bucks? *: You are on channel 1 with marty, BoHunter, moe_rm, boehr, a_ball4u, Mr.Ed. boehr: Hi Mr Ed a_ball4u: Hi, Mr. ED moe_rm: hey Mr. Ed! Mr.Ed: How is everyone tonight? a_ball4u: good marty: not really I see a few but mostly at night a_ball4u: U? Mr.Ed: Doin' good. Counting down the days. moe_rm: well everyone i've gotta go marty: the sad part is they will keep shooting everything they can and it will hurtus more in the long run marty: good luck this weekend moe BoHunter: Later...moe_rm a_ball4u: hehe... Just tommorrow, and then It's game time for me Mr.Ed: Later Moe boehr: see ya moe_rm a_ball4u: bye moe moe_rm: thanx marty moe_rm: later Bo webmaster: Yeah and the people who shoot 10 does on unlimited permits are the same ones complaining that they don't see any deer in their area. moe_rm: later Mr. Ed marty: get a big one Mr.Ed: Won't get to hunt until the 21st of Oct. moe_rm: cya boehr moe_rm: cya a_ball and good luck to ya this weekend a_ball4u: Anyone know how the deer got TB in the first place? Was it from cattle origionaly/ marty: thats what happen here they fellows down the road shot 13 deer a_ball4u: thx. moe *: moe_rm just logged off. webmaster: So Boehr, if I have a small game lisence and take my bow and target out in the State Park near me where hunting is allowed to practice with my broadheads I am legal right? boehr: that's the million dollar question, where the TB come from BoHunter: who can use 13 deer? I don't have a freezer that big Mr.Ed: And how to get rid of it. boehr: yes your legal Mr.Ed: If it can be eradicated. marty: I dont think anyone knows where it came from a lot of people think its been here all the time a_ball4u: I've known to eat a lot. but 13 is a bunch webmaster: Don't know if they will ever figure out where it came from but I'll bet they could find it in every county if they looked hard enough. Probably in other states too. a_ball4u: It probably has, but why the sudden outbreak??? Mr.Ed: I think other states would find it if they tested like MI does. boehr: I agree web a_ball4u: Or at least so noticeable? marty: I dont know what he did with them marty: he was so happy he shot mama and then killed the fawns while they were beside her big hunter right?? webmaster: brb guys. *: Chad1 just melted into a meaningless puddle of ooze and is now gone. a_ball4u: Boehr: How do you "legaly" tag a doe???? a_ball4u: I've seen it done through the leg, and ear a_ball4u: which ones right? boehr: Legally to the lower jaw or lower leg boehr: A buck can be the above or antler a_ball4u: I'll go with leg then (assuming I get one) boehr: Page 12 in the digest also states how a_ball4u: And just to double check, I just notch all that appliesoi the liscense marty: Would a fellow get into troubl if he punch a hole in her ear and took a piece of string and wrap it around the tag?? boehr: Correct *: northbound just logged on to Jabber Chat. a_ball4u: How close do i have to be to my dad? marty: howdy north what did you do web change your aftershave?? a_ball4u: (during the hunt) to be concidered supervised boehr: I wouldn't have a problem with that overall depending on the circumstances, Iv'e had a guy, when we had backtags try to stick his backtag through the ear in the car when I stopped him BoHunter: Got to run. It has been enlightening. Good luck everyone with whatever your outdoor pleasure is. marty: have a good un bo good luck boehr: You have to be close enough to dad so that dad can give direction to you if needed Mr.Ed: got to go guys later and good luck. *: Mr.Ed just logged off. *: BoHunter just logged off. a_ball4u: We may be a bout 30 feet away (we have a ground blind, but might switch to 2 treestands) boehr: Dad has to be able to see you, what you are shooting at, and be able to tell you not to shoot if needed boehr: I would say 30 feet is fine *: You are on channel 1 with marty, boehr, a_ball4u, northbound. a_ball4u: last question directed to you today, I promise: boehr: I would say in most conditions, 100 feet would be fine webmaster: So did anybody see any of the archery from the Olympics? marty: well all got to hit the rack old age is catching up with me Good luck to all if I dont yak at you next week and please remember to wear a safety harness good night to all boehr: take care marty *: marty just logged off. webmaster: Best of luck to ya Marty. a_ball4u: How is it legal to travel with a deer? I'm worried about every cop in town seeing a deet on the hood of the car, and thinking i hunted out of season boehr: Ask all the questions you want, better now than finding out the hard way:) a_ball4u: *deer a_ball4u: lol a_ball4u: so true *: northbound just melted into a meaningless puddle of ooze and is now gone. webmaster: What distance do they shoot at? 60 or 90 yards? That's nuts. webmaster: Boehr, I have a good one for you. Can you hunt turkey from a treestand as long as you are not using bait and have a turkey permit? boehr: As long as you have it tagged or, this time of year, a car deer permit, you can transport it any way you want boehr: With a bow only, raised platforms for firearms are deer and bear only a_ball4u: k. Thx. i once heard it had to be visible, but aI'd rather just bring it to the butcher in the trunk webmaster: So turkey from a treestand with a bow can be legal? I didn't know there was a distinction between bow and firearms as far as that goes. boehr: No it doesn't have to be visable in Michigan, Wisconsin might be that way webmaster: Got another one for you, say you take a nice buck and want to get it mounted. You take it to the processor and they give you the cape. Does it still have to have the tag on the antler at that point? boehr: When the law was passed for firearms from a tree stand that was the way it was passed, bear & deer. As far as turkey from a tree stand it has always been legal with a bow webmaster: At what point can you take the tag off? boehr: Once the processing has started, it no long has to have a tag on the animal a_ball4u: Boehr is Dr. popularity here tonight! :) webmaster: So if you process your deer yourself and you start on it you can immediately remove the tag once you start processing? boehr: When I was a CO I use to do this all the time in person at sportsman clubs, now I a Lt, I miss it webmaster: Well you can still do it here. I'm sure there is no end to the questions. webmaster: Got another question for you too...... boehr: If you have your deer in your garage or on the buck pole at camp and you start cutting it up the tag can be removed a_ball4u: I got to go finish my homework and study for tomorrow. Thx for all the help. It's great to know someone from the DNR. webmaster: Ok, say I'm bowhunting from a raised stand over bait and a partridge comes in. Is it legal to take it? a_ball4u: Now I can say I got connections! boehr: I wouldn't try doing it right after you shot it in the field though and try to get the CO to buy the story that you started processing it in the woods webmaster: Later a_ball4u: Bye! *: a_ball4u just logged off. *: glancingblow just logged on to Jabber Chat. webmaster: Yeah, Boehr I wondered about where the line is with that one. boehr: As long as you have a small game license you can shoot the grouse boehr: Hi glancingblow :) glancingblow: hello webmaster: Right, now I would need a fur harvester license to shoot a racoon? webmaster: Hello glancing. boehr: The Co might buy the story in the woods if you have wrapping paper and have punched you tag :) boehr: Yes for the coon webmaster: Have there been any thoughts on changing the racoon to be taken with a small game due to the possibility of rabies spreading amoung them and their over-population in many areas? boehr: Not that I've heard but I suppose it would be possible at some point webmaster: One more thing Boehr if you don't mind.... boehr: Go ahead webmaster: Coyote hunting at night with a bow. It is legal as long as I have a wounded game call or equivalent in my hand right, with a small game license. webmaster: Which means I can use site light and artificial light on my target? webmaster: Like one of those lights that screw into your stabilizer hole on your bow? boehr: True, changed this year but the change is a small change. Coyote hunting at night is pretty fun and the only way unless you have dogs during the day boehr: Light at the point of kill webmaster: What exactly did change with that law this year? webmaster: Meaning I can only turn the light on when I go to shoot? boehr: Laser light, hand held light, whatever boehr: The bow part webmaster: You can keep the light on, or only turn it on when you go to shoot? boehr: Right, just like hunting coons with a light, difference with coons is you have to have a dog boehr: You can not keep the light on, only when you shoot webmaster: So leave it off until you think the coyote is within range? webmaster: Ok, webmaster: Well thanks for answering all the questions I and everyone else had. webmaster: I gotta get to work early so I think I'm going to run. boehr: Best way for coyotes at night is in a open field, with a call, full moon with snow on the ground, sit against a telephone pole wrapped in a white sheet webmaster: Thanks again. webmaster: Why the white sheet? boehr: Take care web and everyone, I gots to go too boehr: Camo with the snow webmaster: Later Boehr thanks! *: webmaster just logged off. *: boehr just logged off. *: glancingblow just logged off. |
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